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traces
Posted by: mike davies (86.160.83.234)
Date: June 28, 2009 at 10:34
Message id: 13065 - hi
what do think the ideal length of a conger trace should be, have a trip july 4 bit rusty
conger fishing south coast
Posted by: tony hadley (82.4.72.36)
Date: June 19, 2009 at 20:39
Message id: 13064 - can anybody surgest a club-group who go on regular conger trips on south coast,ie -newhaven,brighton,littlehampton,etc. cheers tony
severn channel conger
Posted by: e p haines (86.146.24.190)
Date: June 6, 2009 at 17:41
Message id: 13062 - Having landed a 72inch by 20inch girth in front of dorsal inshore conger I wondered if anyone could estimate weight for me. Has there been any studies done on this species and is any info available. I would be happy to tag or send in info to any party interested
junior championships
Posted by: steve watson (149.254.49.59)
Date: June 3, 2009 at 12:31
Message id: 13061 - Dear Junior Members,
The Junior Conger Championship will be fished on Sat 8th August on board Sea Angler.
My address is 3 Pedley Way, Grange Estate, Norseroad, Bedford. MK41 0GF.
You may also contact me on 01234-327649 or mobile 07947-164051.
My e-mail is watty.cfconger@yahoo.co.uk.
Regards Steve
AFFILIATED CLUBS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Posted by: Tony Allen (Webmaster) (97.106.0.234)
Date: May 4, 2009 at 18:09
Message id: 13059 - PLEASE NOTE: THE AFFILIATED CLUBS CHAMPIONSHIPS has been switched to PLYMOUTH as Brixham could only supply one boat.
AFFILIATED CLUBS CHAMPIONSHIPS
Posted by: Tony Allen (Webmaster) (97.106.0.234)
Date: May 1, 2009 at 14:51
Message id: 13058 - Hi Chris,
I see you posted a message with regard to the above. However you could not have read the BCC NEWS PAGE 1 as the information is posted there under CALENDAR OF EVENTS. The location is BRIXHAM.
Kind regards,
Tony Allen
Affiliatedconger club venue Sept 2009
Posted by: Chris Goddard (86.4.22.200)
Date: April 28, 2009 at 16:44
Message id: 13057 - Our club Guildford City Sea Angling took part & won last years event. I understand that the venue has been changed. Where to? This matter is fairly urgent as we need to book accomodation asap.
Regards
Chris Goddard
Reply to Tony Geal
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.108.70.19)
Date: April 16, 2009 at 18:23
Message id: 13056 - Hi Tony
The venue was changed partly because of the charges made by the Mount Batten Centre for using their facilities and also because they charge for each angler to be picked up and dropped off at the pontoon each day (I think the cost is £2 each time). We also experienced problems when trying to srop anglers off with the divers ribs being moored in the way.
I understand there is parking available at the new venue and it is nearer to the barbican and tackle shops.
If you need any other information please contact Bob Nye who is the Festivals Officer.
Regards
Di
Members Champs Parking
Posted by: Tony Geal (81.99.150.43)
Date: April 5, 2009 at 14:45
Message id: 13055 - I see that venue has changed for the champion ships. Whats the parking like? At the Mount Batton centre the parking was good and I could pick up my bait easily in the morning, what
caused a change of venue
Cheers Tony
previous medals/fom
Posted by: simon gavey (81.20.189.206)
Date: December 20, 2008 at 11:56
Message id: 13054 - Hi Tony.
I for one would be interested to see the archives of medal winners,how far back to the go?
Perhaps to save space on the bcc website they could be posted on a different site like perhaps on of the popular sea fishing forum sites.
Mind you i suppose it would be time consuming to do.
regards simon
Reply to Simon Gavey
Posted by: Tony Allen (BCC Webmaster) (97.106.0.234)
Date: December 19, 2008 at 19:31
Message id: 13053 - Hi Simon,
We only show the current year standings for FOM & MEDALS. This can be found under COMPETITIONS on the MAIN MENU. If members are interested I could show the archives of these listings from previous years, but it does tend to clog up the BCC MENU with data.
Kind regards,
Tony
yearbook
Posted by: simon gavey (81.20.189.206)
Date: December 18, 2008 at 18:57
Message id: 13052 - Am i correct in thinking that there is no yearbook from last year?
If so would it be possible to have a list of 2007 medal winners & fish of the month winners put on the website?
CLOSE SEASON
Posted by: Tony Allen (97.106.0.234)
Date: November 30, 2008 at 04:23
Message id: 13051 - Hi Mark,
There is no close season for CONGER EELS.
I believe the weather plays an important part during the winter with very few boats getting to sea because of gales etc. So it feels like a close season!
close season?
Posted by: Mark (81.110.83.48)
Date: November 28, 2008 at 23:14
Message id: 13050 - Hi is there any close season for the conger eel?
2009 Championship Dates etc
Posted by: Tony Allen (97.106.0.234)
Date: November 17, 2008 at 04:18
Message id: 13049 - Hi Mark,
Thhe information you require regarding next years Members Champs Dates are posted on our website under Calendar of Events. They are in fact on the 4th & 5th July 2009.
At the moment the BCC have not gotten around to paying ONLINE. Unfortunately this can be expensive for the club, unless we set up a PAYPAL ACCOUNT. However we still loose money from each subscription as it is not FREE!
As for the YEAR BOOK it is the intention to post this ONLINE for some members.This will defray postage expenses which are huge.
Kind regards,
Tony
membership subs/bcc championships 2009
Posted by: Mick Roberts (77.102.176.18)
Date: November 14, 2008 at 17:00
Message id: 13048 - Hi is there any information on dates for next years members championship and how to pay 2009 subscriptions. Is it likely to be done on line
along with the year book? This is my first posting so i hope i have done things right.
Many thanks Mick Roberts
COMPETITIONS
Posted by: Tony Allen (97.106.6.0)
Date: October 9, 2008 at 16:34
Message id: 13047 - Competition results can be found on the BCC WEBSITE under the MAIN MENU-COMPETITIONS. Here you will find a drop down menu with the competitions results listed.
Affiliated Champs
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.108.94.18)
Date: October 8, 2008 at 18:18
Message id: 13046 - I have passed the results to our Webmaster, Tony Allen and he will put them onto the website at the next update.
Regards
Di Byrne
Reply for John Bryson
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.108.94.18)
Date: October 8, 2008 at 18:17
Message id: 13045 - Congratulations on catching your qualifying eel. You can certainly join now as a full member. To do so you need to complete the membership form online or e-mail me and I will send you a form.
Regards
Di Byrne
dates / results
Posted by: burbot (81.102.28.18)
Date: October 6, 2008 at 20:27
Message id: 13043 - Please could someone let me know the full results of this years conger festival at Plymouth? also the dates for next years comp at Brixham next year ? thank you
dates/ & results
Posted by: rob ashford (81.102.28.18)
Date: October 6, 2008 at 20:17
Message id: 13042 - Please, Could someone out there please let me have the results of this years affiliated conger festival at Plymouth ?, also the date for next years affiliated conger festival at Brixham 2009...? thank you
results
Posted by: Rob Ashford (81.102.18.168)
Date: October 2, 2008 at 19:06
Message id: 13041 - Could someone please email me with the full results of this years affiliated conger championships at Plymouth,i had to leave before the presentation
Rob Ashford/boat sec s.v.l.f.c wales
ps/ also confirm next years affiliated date.
Conger caught at stranraer
Posted by: john bryson (92.3.27.153)
Date: September 8, 2008 at 20:08
Message id: 13040 - hi there i have looked at your web sit e a lot and have always wanted to join and on sunday i landed a lovely 42lb 70z conger of the west cost of scotland so can i join ?
Championships
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.108.85.117)
Date: August 12, 2008 at 17:31
Message id: 13039 - Just to advise everyone that we have recently had the management committee meeting and discussed all your comments and suggestions.
The following is a quick response to some of you comments kindly put together by Bob, the new Festivals Officer but some things will take a little longer to investigate.
Regards Di
Following the posting on the website by members of several constructive criticisms/suggestions about the way the club runs it’s competitions, the committee at it’s recent meeting considered the matters raised.
Numbers Of Anglers Per Boat.
Whilst it is considered ideal to be fishing less numbers on boats when targeting Conger, the economic realities of ensuring cost against value mean that reluctantly the numbers will have to be kept at ten per boat, although in some circumstances this may be reduced to nine.
Due to fuel rises, next years costs have risen and will be communicated to you in the next newsletter when finally confirmed as part of the package.
Whilst the boat crew numbers remain at this level there are some constructive measures which the committee would recommend to members ,to make the trips more comfortable for all.
We have encouraged the use of a rotational system of fishing positions in order that all anglers have a fair chance of catching.
It has also been noted that many anglers seem to want to take every item of fishing tackle they possess on the boat. This leads to huge boxes and bags of gear needing to be stowed on the boat and adding to congestion.
We would urge all anglers to adopt a far more minimalist kind of approach, such as needing only relevant weights, hook lengths, swivels etc, wet weather gear, lunch, one rod and reel for heavy work and a mackerel rod and reel.
Remember the more weight the more it costs to run a boat!
Provision Of Bait.
It was suggested that the committee seek to provide bait for the trips at maybe extra cost to entry.
This suggestion was rejected as it is not really practicable.
In addition we are all aware of trying to keep costs to an affordable level, as the weekend attracts people from all over the country, with the additional travelling and accommodation costs entailed
All anglers should have presence of mind to phone ahead orders for bait to local tackle shops or provide for their own use.
Start Time.
Anglers have complained about the time wasted in boarding their drawn boats.
Whilst timing is often beyond the control of the skippers when trying to make their way through the locks, there is no excuse for the anglers not to be ready for embarkation.
In future if the boat is on the mooring it will wait only 15 minutes beyond the start time, after which it will depart for the days sport.
Other Matters.
Other items referred to in e mail/formal correspondence are being actively pursued, however positive responses cannot be given at the present time as resolutions are ongoing.
Bob Nye Festival Secretary.
Members Champs
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.111.22.154)
Date: August 8, 2008 at 17:52
Message id: 13038 - The reply below has been put together by our Festivals Officer in response to comments received since the Champs.
Regards
Di Byrne
Following the posting on the website by members of several constructive criticisms/suggestions about the way the club runs it’s competitions, the committee at it’s recent meeting considered the matters raised.
Numbers Of Anglers Per Boat.
Whilst it is considered ideal to be fishing less numbers on boats when targeting Conger, the economic realities of ensuring cost against value mean that reluctantly the numbers will have to be kept at ten per boat, although in some circumstances this may be reduced to nine.
Due to fuel rises, next years costs have risen and will be communicated to you in the next newsletter when finally confirmed as part of the package.
Whilst the boat crew numbers remain at this level there are some constructive measures which the committee would recommend to members ,to make the trips more comfortable for all.
We have encouraged the use of a rotational system of fishing positions in order that all anglers have a fair chance of catching.
It has also been noted that many anglers seem to want to take every item of fishing tackle they possess on the boat. This leads to huge boxes and bags of gear needing to be stowed on the boat and adding to congestion.
We would urge all anglers to adopt a far more minimalist kind of approach, such as needing only relevant weights, hook lengths, swivels etc, wet weather gear, lunch, one rod and reel for heavy work and a mackerel rod and reel.
Remember the more weight the more it costs to run a boat!
Provision Of Bait.
It was suggested that the committee seek to provide bait for the trips at maybe extra cost to entry.
This suggestion was rejected as it is not really practicable.
In addition we are all aware of trying to keep costs to an affordable level, as the weekend attracts people from all over the country, with the additional travelling and accommodation costs entailed
All anglers should have presence of mind to phone ahead orders for bait to local tackle shops or provide for their own use.
Start Time.
Anglers have complained about the time wasted in boarding their drawn boats.
Whilst timing is often beyond the control of the skippers when trying to make their way through the locks, there is no excuse for the anglers not to be ready for embarkation.
In future if the boat is on the mooring it will wait only 15 minutes beyond the start time, after which it will depart for the days sport.
Other Matters.
Other items referred to in e mail/formal correspondence are being actively pursued, however positive responses cannot be given at the present time as resolutions are ongoing.
Bob Nye Festival Secretary.
MESSAGE BOARD
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Championships
Posted by: Bob Nye (86.17.255.36)
Date: July 17, 2008 at 16:00
Message id: 12617 - As the new festival secretary I am taking this opportunity to add to Di's comments.
Unfortunately my official website is not working at present so I have only just caught up with the current blog.
I can only say that all comments about the championships will be looked at by the committee and we will report in due course.
All your comments are always welcome provided they are constructive and we(the committee) will do all we can to ensure the champs remain a friendly positive experience for the participants.
Champs
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.111.47.128)
Date: July 14, 2008 at 19:52
Message id: 12509 - Its really great to hear from so many members and please keep the comments coming. As I said with a new Festivals Officer keen to make his mark, this is the time for all the ideas/comments/criticisms to be made and discussed thoroughly.
I've printed off all your messages so it should be an interesting (if not very long) management committee meeting in August.
Regards
Di
champs
Posted by: phill allan (86.150.198.10)
Date: July 11, 2008 at 15:26
Message id: 12327 - Unfortunately I missed the comp due to illness so lost my digs and boat money, and of course the chance!but hey` thats life.
if you look back over the messages, there is a mixed bag of good, bad, and indifferent.
Pauls comments are constructive and maybe entiltled to a contructive reply from committee, skippers, and members alike, or not at all.
its not the first time that the same point has been raised,(hence Kevins response).
its what can be done to resolve it, I personally agree that some boats have to small a deck for ten anglers,even 8 at times depending on weather conditions.
its ok to say bring one rod, one reel,a few leads, smaller lunch box, less clothing, chuck frozen bait in your tackle box, but its the is it not the "British Conger Championship"
(the Americans would call it the world champs!)
I have seen a few rods crack and few reels play up over the 14 years I have been fishing the comp, and if the mack aint there to be caught, your glad to have the cooler box of frozen, which has to last the visiting angler the weekend,as we dont have the luxury of an overnight freezer!
calculate the 10 x tackle box
10 x freezer box
10 sets of weather gear
15-20 rods
10 x lunch bags
and 10 big ugly anglers, hehehe
then you understand where Pauls coming from.
Having said that, I would not want to see the comp moved anywhere else, Mount batten is the new home and is a great place to have. Kevin made the point that the affilated is held at other venues, and then we have Weymouth, so its a good mix to choose from, and I am sure that each has its own problems. But if voted in favour then I would still attend where ever it was.
Steves comments on bait is a vauled point, but its awlays a wonder to me why the local tackle shop is not on the quay for extra buisness.
I would be happy to pay for the additional room, but this will mean having more boats and are they available? its tough times for skips at the moment.
The committee have done a great job of representing the clubs members and long may it continue. None the less constructive feed back is important to any club.
one thing is for sure, there is always one happy angler each year!!
Tight lines
Phill
To Santi
Posted by: Tony Geal (81.111.103.127)
Date: July 11, 2008 at 01:03
Message id: 12296 - I will email after the weekend to help if I can but I am away fishing again at a beach competition until Sunday.
How it was for me.
Posted by: Tony Geal (81.111.103.127)
Date: July 11, 2008 at 00:56
Message id: 12295 - My thanks for again organising my annual Conger hunt at Plymouth, I know what a thankless task organising an event such as this can seem. I have read Kevin and Paul's emails.
Lets face it, it was the wind that caused most problems this year. I was with Geordie on Saturday and was very disappointed we only fished 2-2 1/2hrs and for most of that time I felt we were not very close to the wreck. During the day we ended up with the rope around the prop and at least twice had the anchor rope across the cockpit,once stripping a couple of rings off a rod, as he repeatedly tried to anchor the wreck and I understand on Sunday the people on Sea Cheetah had it worse. If a legend like Geordie cannot anchor in that wind and tide who could?
The second day I was with Sean on Size Matters, a different type of vessel, and we caught eels (well the others did)again. Sean could not pull us away from the wreck to reduce tackle losses in case his anchor tripped as he would have had real trouble re anchoring.
In years past we would not have fished wrecks in that strength of wind, it would have been either on the reefs or the drop off or not at all.
Di has written about cost of boats and number of them, back in the days before registered charter boats the Conger champs had various vessels. I remember I fished on a trawler once?!!?
Cost of course is a big consideration, when you take in fuel, B+B, entry fee, bait and spending money (and the wifes shopping) it isn't cheap, so many of us can't justify more expense for another trip to the AGM. Could the AGM be at the same time as the Championships possibly on the Thursday or Monday? I think that would also increase the numbers for the AGM and the fishing. Di also mentioned the number of anglers who did not enter into a team/pool this year. I am personally against money prizes in Angling and my email dated last Christmas asked about eels being kept unneccesarily for the team prize but I got no answers. I don't understand the team prize now, is it the biggest two eels not the numbers? if so it's no wonder there are not so many entering, travelling anglers in ones and twos are at a disadvantage not knowing who is in your team, let alone knowing what they've caught, if you don't get a big one you get as many eels as possible.
Maybe one year Mike will take my photo, I'm beginning to doubt it though. The more I get to know about conger fishing the less I seem to catch.
See you next year Cheers Tony.
Championships
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.108.81.48)
Date: July 10, 2008 at 17:50
Message id: 12275 - Just a quick thank you to Steve Beare for his constructive comments and to advise that I will certainly bring all the comments to the next management meeting.
As I said before, we have a new Festivals Officer who, I am sure, will have some new ideas to bring to the Champs.
Watch this space!
Regards
Di Byrne
Championships 2008
Posted by: Steve Beare (81.156.50.237)
Date: July 9, 2008 at 21:06
Message id: 12221 - I have read the forum with interest and agree that it is not meant for a slanging match but I would like to put foward my own thoughts and comments on the issues raised to continue the discussion and hopefully resolve some of the issues
1. The location and Mountbatten Centre are great - car parking, unloading etc all good.
2. The number of anglers per boat was a problem this year. On the first day I was with a group of 10 which was too crowded. Sunday I was also with 10 but on a much bigger boat and this was no problem. Some boats from last year were not there this time, is this why there was crowding?
3. On the first boat above when you add the moving around idea when a fish is caught it was hazardous to say the least in choppy water. My feeling on this is that once you have drawn your position number you should keep that for the day.
4. Bait - there seems to be a struggle for bait each year. Should we contribute to a pool for bait to be provided on the boat?
5. Boat leaving times -I think this should be enforced and latecomers miss the boat!
6. I am aware that on Sunday at least 20 anglers were unhappy about the time they had for fishing. I believe there were problems with a new boat and I can understand their frustration. Can we guarantee this will not happen next year?
7.Weymouth - should using different ports for the Championships be introduced? A rotation of a few years eg Plymouth, Weymouth, Brixham and then round again? It would keep the interest going and give a bit of variety each year.
8. I for one am prepared to pay a bit more for the suggestions I have raised ie less anglers per boat, bait on boats.
Overall the event was thoroughly enjoyed by the Isle of Wight anglers and we are grateful for the time and effort put in to make it so successful.
bcc champs
Posted by: tony hadley (82.3.127.112)
Date: July 8, 2008 at 20:04
Message id: 12179 - can someone tell me next years dates for champs please
Problems with conger fishing
Posted by: santi (87.218.50.24)
Date: July 7, 2008 at 19:53
Message id: 12125 - Dear fisherpeople,
I am a Spanish shore conger fisherman. I have been trying conger fishing for fourteen years almost every weekend, even raining or snowing, and I have always had very few catches because of my losing eels in the after some time of fight, most of the times on the surface or when they are about to appear. I have lost big eels in every possible way but about 95% of the times the cause is that they got unhooked. I don´t know why this happens, I have been told recently by a guy who never loses them that the cause can be that the hooks I use are O´Saughnessy and that those hooks can tear the flesh of the eels, whilst he, using octopus hooks, never loses them because octopus hooks are designed not to tear the flesh of fish. What do you make of this? I use nylon traces about 1 meter long and 6/0 hooks. I would be very grateful if some of you could throw some light about the cause why I lose so many eels. By the way, could you tell me the diameter of a 100lb line? The line I use for traces has 1,20 mm of diameter but when you speak about lb I do not know the equivalent.
Kind regards,
Reply To Viv
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.111.36.158)
Date: July 7, 2008 at 18:51
Message id: 12120 - Thank you Viv for your generous praise and thanks also from Plymouth as a whole for praising our shopping. We (that is the committee) know that Plymouth has its problems with parking etc and we do now have a new Festivals Officer who does not live in Plymouth so may have some new ideas - watch this space.
Regards
Di Byrne
Reply
Posted by: Kev Lavis (62.171.194.12)
Date: July 7, 2008 at 12:59
Message id: 12108 - Di, I agree - this is not the pace for a
"slanging" match - nor was it intended to be when I posted, nor will it be.
Paul - again I agree - we are all entitled to our own views, and thankfully we can use many media to express them.
My earlier post was to outline that once again following an event a post appears and offers little in the form of CONSTRUCTIVE criticism. We can all state problems with any event that we watch or take part in - but what do we offer in return? Are we able to make effective suggestions for improvement and face the consequences of such change? For example if the maximim on a boat was limited to 8 would EVERYONE be prepared to pay the extra to cover the empty spaces? (not suggesting I have the answer here!)Perhaps a suggestion to run a questionaire similar to the wreck / reef debate but asking members what their upper limit would be to pay to fish the competition would have offered more of a way forward?
As far as harmful comments go I am confused. I stated and would again that "it was a big dissapointment to the majority of the members that fished" is a misleading and potentially damaging comment to make. No personal attack or upset intended.
Rather than bicker over semantics; how about we (members) make some constructive suggestions about what to change (if necessary) and HOW to go about doing so? And having done so - put it in writing for the committee to discuss and prepare for wider discussion at the AGM. We're all in it for the same goal - an enjoyable weekends' competition with the opportunity to fish from some of the countrys' leading craft in the company of friends.
We still love Plymouth
Posted by: Viv Geal (81.111.103.127)
Date: July 6, 2008 at 19:55
Message id: 12071 - It was year before last that was brilliant,and last year that was better than this year. Still the same point though. But I bet the guy that won thinks this year was brilliant!
We love Plymouth
Posted by: Viv Geal (81.111.103.127)
Date: July 6, 2008 at 19:45
Message id: 12068 - We as a family have been coming down to Plymouth for must be nearly 20 years from when my kids were tiny to now when my son fishes as well as his Dad. Please don't ever move from Plymouth. The shops are fantastic!!
Some years we come back all excited some years we are not so happy this year was'nt so good but last year was brilliant, but it is always a wonderful competition and if Weymouth was such a good place to fish from with such excellent organisation they would have had the comp there for many years! Just seeing into the future it moves to Weymouth then the new organisers realise what hard work it is then it closes due to lack of interest. As an unbiased supporter who doesn't care how many fish are caught I think you should think yourselves lucky that there is such a competition and be grateful that others spend there time organising it for you, and if you can't take the rough with the smooth, go and sort out your own competition. But leave Plymouth alone!!!!
Answer to Kevin Lavis
Posted by: Paul Maris (86.158.63.141)
Date: July 6, 2008 at 10:08
Message id: 12055 - First and foremost I am grown up and I am entitled to my views wether you like them or not. If you read my leter correctly my only criticism was with the size of the boats for the number of anglers that fish them so most of the twaddle you put in your letter must have come out of your own thoughts. I do attend the AGM regulary and I have nothing but admiration for the committee, they all do a great job. So where do these harmful comments come from Kev or did you get a letter from someone else? No I stand by my comments but I would be interested by more members views?
Championships
Posted by: Di Byrne (91.108.70.213)
Date: July 6, 2008 at 08:34
Message id: 12053 - I have been reading comments made on the message board since the Champs and thought it was time to make some comments in order to avoid the message board becoming a "slanging" match between members. It is not meant for that purpose rather as a forum for like people to talk about their chosen sport and share information.
I write, I'm sure, on behalf of the whole management committee when I say that we all need to take criticism as well as praise and can assure you that Paul's comments (and any other comments for that matter) are discussed thoroughly at our next management committee meeting.
Not having had chance to speak to the previous and new Festival Officers I can purely answer what I feel are the factors affecting how much room anglers have on charter boats from Plymouth.
The first, of course, is cost. Prices were increased this year because of the exhorbitant cost of fuel. If we were to put only 8 anglers onto boats licenced for 10 it would put the cost per angler up significantly and in this time of the "credit crunch" we did not feel this was a good idea and from the number of anglers who did not enter into a team/pool this year I think the decision was the right one.
The second issue is the amount of gear that anglers take onto the boats each day!!!! Is it really necessary when you are conger fishing? Please give it some thought.
That said, it was great to see everyone again -the old faces and the new and hope that we will continue to see you in the coming years
Regards
Di Byrne
Secretary
Here we go again!
Posted by: Kev Lavis (88.108.161.19)
Date: July 5, 2008 at 09:55
Message id: 11996 - ...and so it hapens again. A group of hard-working people plan a competition in their sare time without reward for 70+ people to fish, even arranging acomodation, parking and packed lunches - only for someone to start moaning because they prefer to fish under different conditions. GROW UP! Why is that some feel the need to constantly moan about other people's efforts and offer very little in return?
"it was a big dissapointment to the majority of the members that fished" What utter nonscence! Comments like this are damaging for the club, committee, and skippers. Having crewed on one of the boats all weekend (and spoke to many at the weigh-ins) I heard no comlaints about how, where or when the cometition was fished. The only suggestion made was that the cost hasn't changed much for several years and that the people I spoke to would like to see the price increase to match the increases seen by the organisers and skippers. Please in future if you will send in such harmful and erroneous comments make sure that the reader is aware that it it just that - wrong!
It amazes me that some people think that on a 2 day competition in fairly small tides all boats will find a wreck clear of nets in perfect anchoring conditions and catch that once in a life time fish. Having run and worked on boats from Plymouth for twenty years + I personally would not have chosen to stay at anchor all weekend if I were fishing myself. It is a great testiment to the skipers who managed to anchor in sustained force 5-6 gusting 7 at times and even in wind against tide conditions - and catch eels.
Congratulations should be forwarded to the committee involved in the organisation and running of the competition. This was again done in their own time and for us - the member. I wonder how many of us offered our services to help them either before or during the event? Also as a member I forward my congratulations to ALL the skippers and crew for tireless hard work preparing for and during the competition. The conditions were far from perfect yet enough bait was found by most boats (and the committee gave the warning of a bait shortage on the friday) as were plenty of congers for some. Lastly well done to ALL the anglers who fished through far from perfect conditions.
It would be great if, rather than moaning on a message board, people could attend the annual forum in person and discus views / concerns / ideas at the AGM - that is what it is there for!
As for the boats in Plymouth - A catamaran, 45' Guimond, 38' Eevolution, 33' Aquastars, 33' Evolution.... all plenty big enough to cope - ESPECIALLY as the committee added the 'conveyor' system to reduce tangles.
Keep the competition in Plymouth, the skippers are good, boats are good, fishing is good, accomodations is good, parking is good. The Affiliated comp roams around - if you want it fished somewhere specific the GO TO THE AGM and say so - may be even do a lttle ground work yourself and make suggestions as to who would be the main contact at the port in question.
Once again - thankyou to those who gave up their time to arrange another good competition and to the skippers who worked very well in the conditions.
And to those that want change - use the appropriate forum and discuss your views at the AGM
Tight Lines all...
Kev.
bcc champs
Posted by: tony hadley (82.3.127.112)
Date: July 4, 2008 at 22:09
Message id: 11980 - i agree with paul maris ,these boats fish only 8 max,except size matters.you have to either find bigger boats somewhere else, i like plymouth,or have less people if you cant get more boats.i fished size matters on saturday and tamersis on sunday this year,two very different size boats.both great skippers.
2 spces on dedicted conger trip 12th-14th July Plymouth
Posted by: Graham Benyon (195.93.21.9)
Date: July 2, 2008 at 23:33
Message id: 11879 - We have 2 spaces left on a 3 day dedicated conger trip fished on seperate days over the period 12th - 14th of July. Max 8 anglers. Skipper Dave Uren.
Contact Graham on 07530 929977 9am-9pm
BCC Championship
Posted by: Paul Maris (217.43.113.87)
Date: July 2, 2008 at 15:31
Message id: 11853 - Having just got back from my annual trip to Plymouth to fish the BCC conger championship I felt the need to air my feelings to the club and the committee. Firstly congratulations to the trophy winners a big well done, however I think overall it was a big dissapointment to the majority of the members that fished.I know that mackerel was hard to find but when we caught enough bait we didnot fish untill 12oc because there was no tide which only gave us four hours fishing some boats were less than that and one boat didnot fish at all.But my main criticism is that some of the boats used are not big enough to conger fish in comfort, there is not enough room to fish ten people they might be licenced to take ten but you are like sardines and if you are on a wet boat there is no room for all ten to get under cover. I put it to the committee if they were to book one of these smaller boats privately would they have ten on board I dont think so?If you are going to stick to ten a boat you need bigger boats if you havenot got them in Plymouth then I think a change of venue is needed and my suggestion would be Weymouth where there are a host of boats that could accomodate ten a boat.Plus for most members it would be nearer and save on the fuel cost. What you want to see is a lot of smiling faces coming off the boats but there was not many this year.We all want to get the big one or catch some conger what ever the size but when you have a day like we had on Saturday when all ten anglers blanked it doesnot encourage you to want to return next year.
Think about it.
first time shore trip
Posted by: David phillips (81.152.124.189)
Date: June 18, 2008 at 22:28
Message id: 11209 - could I have some tips on the best bait to use on my trip?
Plymouth June 2008
Posted by: dooly (217.23.231.6)
Date: June 10, 2008 at 13:21
Message id: 10998 - Well its that time of year again.. the anuall conger trip.. this year we will be trying out Dave Urwins new boat.. a full review will be posted on our return.. i hope we have even half the luck we had last year.. (check out the post from June last year)
The Biggest Conger
Posted by: Alp Arslan (90.198.161.172)
Date: June 2, 2008 at 23:31
Message id: 10831 - "The biggest conger eel ever recorded was a gigantic fish 350lb found trapped in nets off Iceland's Westmann Islands"
How long could this conger be?
Does this conger has any picture? If someone give me the link of pictures, I would appreciate it.
Thanks.
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK
Posted by: phill allan (82.32.113.201)
Date: May 16, 2008 at 16:38
Message id: 10351 -
TO ALL COMMITTEE MEMBERS AND THEIR RESPECTIVE PARTNERS, KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK, ITS MUCH APPRECIATED FROM ALL THE MEMBERS AT NORTH SOUTH & CENTRAL SAC
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